The Awareness Podcast, Ep.01: Living the Non-Dual Understanding with Bill Free and Francis Lucille: Is There a Role for the Holy Spirit on the Non-Dual Path?

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When Bill Free sat down with spiritual teacher Francis Lucille to get his perspective on what it means to live the non-dual understanding, Bill did not expect that they were going to be talking about the Holy Spirit!

However, what unfolded was a fascinating conversation about the importance of how we define terms, the self-evidence of awareness and what Francis called the greatest revelation that he can formulate.
Press the play button above to listen to Francis explain 
  • how the Holy Spirit can be described experientially as the experience of silent transmission of the light.
  • how the world is like a bad cop and the still small voice of awareness in us is the good cop.
  • how there is not such a thing as a person who desires the truth and who realizes the truth and what is really happening.
  • how the Holy Spirit can be described as the awareness attribute of God
  • the greatest revelation he can formulate.

Francis skillfully points to the truth of our Being, offering you the opportunity to have a direct experience of your true Identity as you listen.


Francis is a spiritual teacher in the tradition of Advaita Vedanta (non-duality). A long time friend and disciple of Jean Klein whom he met in 1975, he was a friend of Robert Linssen, Wolter Keers, Yvan Amar, William Samuel and Robert Adams. He was also influenced by J. Krishnamurti, Krishna Menon and Wei Wu Wei whom he knew personally.

Francis transmits the ancient teaching of non-duality, the common ground of Advaita Vedanta, Ch’an Buddhism, Zen, Taoism and Sufism. Francis’ teachings are not “Neo Advaitic” but traditional, which means that the experience of our true nature has been transmitted from generation to generation by a lineage of sages.

Francis’ teachings reflect those of his guru, Jean Klein: appreciation for humor, art, music, and poetry, intellectual rigor with a “personal” twist due to his training in Mathematics and Physics, emphasis on the body and its feelings. 


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